The case of 2 "curious" partner streamers and some members of the community

When two partner "World of Warships" Twitch streamers enter your channel.

This is going to be a opinion / reflection post on something that has recently occurred on my Twitch.tv Channel.  Here is the chat log and under the logs I will write my opinion and reflect on whats being said.

[22:53:01] <ROY4LPAIN> When fart
[22:53:32] <bfk_fer1yfe> hey
[22:53:37] <bfk_fer1yfe> how is the shima?
[22:53:37] <Phelin3> hi, can plizz you tell me how to be as good as you?
[22:53:40] <bfk_fer1yfe> is it good?
[22:53:47] <bfk_fer1yfe> I am at tier 5 jap dd
[22:53:52] <~%Daopa> im not good
[22:53:53] <bfk_fer1yfe> so working on that line atm
[22:53:53] <~%Daopa> lol
[22:54:31] <ROY4LPAIN> do yeh have a kami
[22:54:38] <ZakuuI> shimakaze is a great ship, you're gonna get so many torp hits!
[22:55:24] <USSADIDAS> I beat a Yamato 1v1 GUNS ONLY with the Shima before
[22:55:30] <generaldort> any tips on how to get 300 viewers?

Here is Twitch Partner #1, bold and purple color thru this log to make them stand out. This is not how you should enter another Partner channel on Twitch. I know right from the start this guy is going to be problematic.

[22:55:38] <bfk_fer1yfe> this is a really busy stream!
[22:55:44] <USSADIDAS> F
[22:55:48] <bfk_fer1yfe> I like this game
[22:56:01] <USSADIDAS> ARE YOU ONE OF THOSE UNICORN PLAYERS?
[22:56:03] <ZakuuI> 291 real hoomans
[22:56:07] <Phelin3> whoa much viewers you must be pro
[22:56:10] <ROY4LPAIN> UNICORNS?!?!?!
[22:56:15] <akulazz> am I prangent?
[22:56:15] <ZakuuI> uniCUM
[22:56:18] <Phelin3> is it an actual unicorn?
[22:56:29] <ROY4LPAIN> DEV STRIKE
[22:56:33] <ROY4LPAIN> DO IT
[22:56:59] <ZakuuI> CUCKED
[22:57:05] <USSADIDAS> oh! Unicum gota ya
[22:57:07] <USSADIDAS> I like penis
[22:57:08] <bfk_fer1yfe> this game looks fun
[22:57:13] <generaldort> dortKUK
[22:57:18] BAN: USSADIDAS

This viewer was perma banned.

[22:57:18] <ZakuuI> send me your referral link @Daopa
[22:57:24] <Phelin3> weedPoop weedPoop weedPoop weedPoop weedPoop weedPoop weedPoop weedPoop weedPoop weedPoop
[22:57:52] <generaldort> i like it too @USSADIDAS
[22:57:52] <ROY4LPAIN> Are you selling lawn gnomes?
[22:57:53] <Phelin3> weed1 weed2
[22:57:57] <ZakuuI> AH DEE DAS NOO
[22:58:00] <akulazz> how is babby formed
[22:58:04] <ZakuuI> #freethemans
[22:58:10] <akulazz> am i gregnant
[22:59:45] <ROY4LPAIN> I got attacked last night in my tomato garden by lawn gnomes, puny things took all my tomatoes, what should I do?!
[23:00:08] <generaldort> can i sub?
[23:00:21] <Phelin3> you are top streamer for world of warships! you should really thank your viewbots
[23:00:52] <Phelin3> all 250 of them
[23:00:59] <generaldort> LUL
[23:01:07] <ROY4LPAIN> WHAT?!
[23:01:15] <generaldort> no way this guy viewbots
[23:01:18] <generaldort> he has to be legit
[23:01:21] <Phelin3> lol
[23:01:26] <ROY4LPAIN> What's a viewbot?
[23:01:27] <akulazz> dort shut up you known viewbotter
[23:01:28] <generaldort> daopa mod me ill ban them,
[23:01:38] <ZakuuI> VIEW BOT ME HARDER DADDY, TIE ME UP AND FORCE ME TO WATCH TIER 2 UMIKAZE CO-OP.
[23:01:58] <Phelin3> okay son ill need to borrow some from dopa
[23:02:27] <ROY4LPAIN> GUNBOAT SHIMA
[23:02:49] <ZakuuI> AIM HIGHER
[23:02:50] <ZakuuI> REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
[23:02:53] <Phelin3> aim higher scrub
[23:03:34] <ZakuuI> SHOVE YOUR TYPE 93 TORPEDOES UP MY STERN DADDY
[23:03:41] <generaldort> ugh i NEED 14 million views

Bad sign of insecurity / jealously here.

[23:03:52] <Phelin3> you have to get as good as him dort
[23:03:54] <ROY4LPAIN> WOAHAHAAH
[23:03:55] <Phelin3> then maybe
[23:03:56] <generaldort> dammit
[23:03:59] <~%Daopa> So you guys alltogether I take it?
[23:04:03] <ZakuuI> how'd you get 14.7m million views?
[23:04:04] <~%Daopa> all a big group
[23:04:06] <ROY4LPAIN> I'm single
[23:04:10] <ROY4LPAIN> ;)
[23:04:11] <ZakuuI> must have to do with view botting you piece of shit
[23:04:14] <~%Daopa> and dont like it that i have views
[23:04:15] <generaldort> ready to mingle
[23:04:18] <~%Daopa> and your wondering whats up
[23:04:23] <~%Daopa> so u came to chit chat?
[23:04:27] <Phelin3> im with zakuul hes my shooger daddy
[23:04:28] <~%Daopa> I guess thats it
[23:04:36] <ROY4LPAIN> Whats goin on
[23:04:38] <~%Daopa> I dont hide anything
[23:04:42] <~%Daopa> Im a embedder

When people ask, I disclose that my stream is embedded, I'm transparent about it. Its on my info section, on this blog etc

[23:04:46] <generaldort> how come i watched u for an hour and nobody talked til we did lol
[23:04:46] <~%Daopa> I run content sites
[23:04:51] <ROY4LPAIN> whats that dad
[23:04:53] <~%Daopa> and I put the stream on the side bar
[23:05:06] <~%Daopa> check my info section for 2 different websites
[23:05:09] <~%Daopa> with examples
[23:05:10] <ZakuuI> iirc google banned auto-play.
[23:05:13] <~%Daopa> thats what i do
[23:05:28] <~%Daopa> Now if you dont believe it
[23:05:34] <~%Daopa> i have nothing more to say.. it is what it is
[23:05:48] <Phelin3> so technically these ppl arent watching you
[23:06:00] <~%Daopa> no
[23:06:04] <~%Daopa> thats not the case at all
[23:06:14] <~%Daopa> they are prob watching and reading .. or seeing on twitter
[23:06:15] <Poster_Nut_Bag> One downside of having a massive amount of embed viewership is being accused of viewbotting. Many people will mistakenly assume you are viewer botting because of the imbalanced of the chat to view number ratio. Lucky for you these type of people are very simple to ignore.
[23:06:20] <~%Daopa> I embed on twitter too
[23:06:42] <~%Daopa> there is a guide on how to do that too on the twitch blog i made
[23:06:45] <~%Daopa> ushould use it
[23:06:47] <~%Daopa> if ur a streamer
[23:06:53] <~%Daopa> very handle and good
[23:07:28] <ZakuuI> "very useful" Well it also proves you're a piece of shit that would stoop to such low levels instead of working hard and building a community. Really makes me think.
[23:07:44] <ROY4LPAIN> Who no premium consumables
[23:07:47] <generaldort> dortROASTED
[23:08:55] <Phelin3> so there are always exactly 250 people on your "contest website"?
[23:09:04] <Phelin3> at all times?
[23:09:08] <Phelin3> no more no less?
[23:09:25] <generaldort> thats the best streamer retainability ive ever seen
[23:09:49] <~%Daopa> u are free to run ur stream how u see fit
[23:09:58] <~%Daopa> this is not to your liking just leave guys
[23:10:00] <generaldort> yo 4 emotes
[23:10:02] <~%Daopa> its a waste of time here
[23:10:05] <ZakuuI> Am I free to hijack websites and put hidden streams in the background too?
[23:10:09] <generaldort> whats that like 10 subs?
[23:10:27] <Phelin3> it may not be viewbotting but your still a fucking scumbag
[23:10:38] <~%Daopa> Hey
[23:10:47] <~%Daopa> theres nothing wrong what embeding

with* typo, I made alot of typo's I was kinda busy playing the game.

[23:10:54] <~%Daopa> Every streamer has embeds somewhere
[23:10:56] <~%Daopa> ruunning
[23:11:00] <generaldort> nope
[23:11:01] <~%Daopa> lets not be stupid now
[23:11:03] <~%Daopa> yes
[23:11:09] <ROY4LPAIN> real talk, why don't you have premium consumables
[23:11:09] <~%Daopa> everyone does over time
[23:11:10] <bfk_fer1yfe> Not actual streamers
[23:11:11] <generaldort> and i still get 270 viewers lol

This guy reeks of competition mentality, needs to compare, make fun of others.

[23:11:16] <~%Daopa> people get embedded all over
[23:11:20] <Poster_Nut_Bag> @Phelin3 @ZakuuI wtf is wrong with you people
[23:11:25] <bfk_fer1yfe> Why is there no chat?
[23:11:27] <generaldort> GOOD people get embedded all over
[23:11:37] <generaldort> not people who dont talk...AT ALL
[23:11:51] <bfk_fer1yfe> nearly 300 people with no chat?
[23:11:56] <generaldort> ^
[23:12:04] <ROY4LPAIN> Real talk, why no premium consumables?
[23:12:38] <~%Daopa> This is not a gimmick stream
[23:12:43] <~%Daopa> nor a personality stream
[23:12:48] <~%Daopa> its chill and mininal
[23:12:53] <bfk_fer1yfe> It sure is not a WOWS stream
[23:12:57] <~%Daopa> i run my thing different from what u see on twitch
[23:12:58] <ROY4LPAIN> BUT NO PREMIUM CONSUMABLES
[23:13:00] <Poster_Nut_Bag> its a titty stream obviously
[23:13:01] <~%Daopa> again
[23:13:05] <bfk_fer1yfe> the standard of play is junk
[23:13:08] <~%Daopa> IF this is not your likeing move along
[23:13:16] <~%Daopa> no one is holding ur hand here to watch
[23:13:22] <bfk_fer1yfe> The reports will begin to flow

The re-occuring we are going to report you threat.

[23:13:24] <ROY4LPAIN> My question
[23:13:24] <ZakuuI> Do you know who @generaldort is? He's one of the most ACTIVE World of Warships streamer in the community. He's been streaming for years, creating a community with HARD WORK and yet somehow he is nowhere close to your view count. You - a nobody that no one knows who is. Please, can you fucking go 200MPH on the highway for a while and make a sharp right?

Here is a confirmation they at least know each other, prob in the same circle of friends.

They want to say I dont work hard? Kappa

I have been a partner streamer since Justin tv, I was most likely one of the original pack of streamers to get into the partnership way way back then.  I have been streaming almost every single day, 8 hours+ for many years. What works for my channel is vast different from what you normally see on Twitch. I'm not a personality streamer, I do not engage in gimmicks or overlays, giveaways etc. I aim to be as minimalist as possible and interaction mainly via chat.  Its a super chill stream with supplemental support from my gaming related blogs that advertise my channel on. This also creates many synergies back to guides and blogs.

Over the years people would ask me, How do you do X or how do you do Y.

Instead of sending people to other websites that offer guides on how to do X or Y, I built up many blogs that answer these questions. I enjoy making game related fansites and thru out my many years of content creating this all adds up. All of this is hard work, done over many years to which these other people have no clue on...

[23:13:32] <ROY4LPAIN> no consumables?!!?@@@1!~!
[23:13:37] <ROY4LPAIN> oops
[23:13:39] <bfk_fer1yfe> 50 plus people will be reporting you daily
[23:13:39] <ROY4LPAIN> I mean
[23:13:47] <generaldort> dortGOAT
[23:13:50] <ROY4LPAIN> NO CONSUMABLES?!?!!?
[23:13:57] <generaldort> dortROASTED
[23:14:00] <~%Daopa> Hey have run reporting or whatever u wanna do
[23:14:04] <Phelin3> have fun with your scam stream im out
[23:14:09] <~%Daopa> this is not lookin good on this partner streamer
[23:14:17] <~%Daopa> to come to another channel and do this
[23:14:17] <ROY4LPAIN> You haven't answered my question
[23:14:20] <generaldort> no its not, you should be ashamed
[23:14:25] <bfk_fer1yfe> scammers
[23:14:26] <ROY4LPAIN> Why don't you run premium consumables
[23:14:31] <ZakuuI> it's not looking good for the viewbotter
[23:14:44] <ROY4LPAIN> extra charge of smoke, spood beest
[23:14:45] <bfk_fer1yfe> enjoy the 50 reports daily
[23:14:57] <ROY4LPAIN> You could have 3 smoke
[23:15:06] <ROY4LPAIN> instead of a two smoka
[23:15:11] <bfk_fer1yfe> OR, stream with ACTUAL vieweers
[23:15:19] <bfk_fer1yfe> and we will leave you alone
[23:15:21] <generaldort> ^
[23:15:41] <bfk_fer1yfe> You're taking away viewers from actual WOWS players
[23:15:45] <~%Daopa> this is the end of my session dont worry
[23:15:52] <~%Daopa> last game :P
[23:15:52] <generaldort> no its not
[23:15:55] <generaldort> we arent done with you
[23:15:58] <ZakuuI> gonna go back in the closet where mommy told you to?
[23:16:05] <ZakuuI> get off her computer
[23:16:05] <bfk_fer1yfe> Keep scamming and we will be back everyday
[23:16:24] <bfk_fer1yfe> Stream like everyone else and we will leave you alone
[23:17:10] <generaldort> yeaaa this is gonna get out to the whole community
[23:17:17] <generaldort> sorry @Daopa ur done

hmmm?

[23:18:31] <Femennenly> Daopa, I’m a massive fan but first time chatter. I felt confident enough to say something now that there are other people chatting

Here comes Partner Twitch streamer #2, a "massive fan"

[23:18:41] <bfk_fer1yfe> oh
[23:18:42] <Femennenly> I was curious on something tho
[23:18:43] <bfk_fer1yfe> hai
[23:18:43] <ROY4LPAIN> :D
[23:18:49] <bfk_fer1yfe> femeWave
[23:18:57] <Femennenly> May I ask a question please :)?
[23:19:10] <bfk_fer1yfe> femePoint
[23:19:51] <Femennenly> Why twitch? You say you’re not one for interaction and it’s just about game play

Why Twitch? Twitch is the #1 live streaming platform for gamers.  They seem to want to push the narrative that I do not interact, which is not the case, I interact with everyone via chat.  I do at rare times mic up and chit chat also but I try to stick with text chat (some reasons why, for non english speaking viewers they can translate what I say from text chat and I have some viewers who I know are deaf. I do not have the ability to captioning and transcription in a live stream format.)

[23:19:59] <Femennenly> Why not use YouTube?
[23:20:40] <Femennenly> The add revenue from having all those videos embedded everywhere would be much more than this
[23:20:53] <generaldort> dont bother he interacts about as much as @bfk_fer1yfe 's dad. Dude went out for cigarettes 30 years ago and hasnt been back
[23:21:05] <Femennenly> Considering that no one is subbing to you
[23:21:21] <Femennenly> No one is chatting with you
[23:21:29] <~%Daopa> I offered disclosure
[23:21:37] <ROY4LPAIN> Thats not funny, my dad left to get milk for breakfast and I haven't seen him in 7 years :(
[23:21:39] <Femennenly> What’s the point of being live, if you’re not planning on interactig
[23:21:40] <~%Daopa> U guys know whats up
[23:21:46] <Femennenly> You know what’s fun Daopa
[23:21:48] <~%Daopa> its fine u dont like it
[23:21:53] <Femennenly> Not sure if you use the Partner discord
[23:21:55] <~%Daopa> but its not against any reals

rules* typo here

[23:22:03] <ROY4LPAIN> whats reals
[23:22:03] <Femennenly> But we actually were chatting about this the other day in there
[23:22:09] <~%Daopa> I promo my channel different the what u do
[23:22:12] <Femennenly> And it’s actually against ToS

This is interesting, they want to say embedding a stream on a website is against the ToS. If this was the case, Twitch wouldn't offer the embedding option which you can find under all streamers in the share button section.

[23:22:15] <ZakuuI> I offer the truth, you view bot and you know it. Have fun getting cucked.
[23:22:17] <generaldort> ^
[23:22:17] <~%Daopa> no its not at all
[23:22:22] <~%Daopa> everyone gets embeds
[23:22:29] <Femennenly> Then why did twitch staff confirm it :)

I will assume this person is making this up; if not this Twitch Staff is not getting the correct facts of the matter and this streamer is creating a false narrative against my channel.

Update: After checking Twitch Partner Discord, I found the following which furthers my point this person is possibly making things up and attempting to use scare / intimidation tactic.



[23:22:30] <~%Daopa> u can promo your stream on your website
[23:22:37] <Femennenly> Iyes
[23:22:40] <~%Daopa> whatever
[23:22:40] <Femennenly> Your website
[23:22:48] <ZakuuI> link to this website please?
[23:22:49] <Femennenly> That no one has posted on for ages
[23:22:53] <Femennenly> Or commented on
[23:23:00] <Femennenly> I’m just curious more than anything

So now they want to know more details of my website(s) because they are curious. Kappa

[23:23:08] <~%Daopa> Again
[23:23:11] <Femennenly> What’s the point of it? You’re not building a following

This person wants to believe this as fact when they don't have any idea. Yes I have a following and its not in "World Of Warships" sphere of things.

[23:23:14] <~%Daopa> you are free to do whatever u like
[23:23:16] <~%Daopa> on your channel
[23:23:22] <~%Daopa> whatever gimmicks
[23:23:23] <ZakuuI> Also what's this 14.7m views website? I am curious, for something so popular it must be great!
[23:23:24] <~%Daopa> and engagement
[23:23:27] <Femennenly> Your social media accs have very little activity
[23:23:28] <Phelin3> is that all you can say?
[23:23:37] <Femennenly> I agree
[23:23:40] <~%Daopa> how ever u like to promo on social media or whatever
[23:23:40] <Femennenly> You do you
[23:23:46] <~%Daopa> im different so u wanna target me
[23:23:47] <Femennenly> But I’m curious on your motivation
[23:23:52] <Femennenly> That’s all
[23:24:00] <~%Daopa> If i wanna watch a stream
[23:24:00] <Femennenly> I stream for community

When people say they are streaming for community and then enter other people channels who are streaming the game they primary on and do what they do.. this is not community building, its tearing down others or trying to intimidate others.

[23:24:05] <~%Daopa> I dont want gimmocks
[23:24:07] <Femennenly> You’re obviously not doing that
[23:24:09] <~%Daopa> I dont want cams
[23:24:14] <~%Daopa> I dont want mic up alot
[23:24:15] <Femennenly> You don’t need them
[23:24:16] <generaldort> i stream so i dont have to pop my p***y up at the club
[23:24:17] <~%Daopa> I do streaming
[23:24:20] <ZakuuI> are you 10 then?
[23:24:22] <~%Daopa> the way i wanna chant
[23:24:24] <Phelin3> NO ONES ASKING you to cam
[23:24:24] <Femennenly> Again I just want to know why
[23:24:25] <~%Daopa> watch
[23:24:31] <~%Daopa> THis is a chill stream
[23:24:36] <~%Daopa> I do Chat Interaction
[23:24:39] <~%Daopa> its simple
[23:24:45] <Femennenly> Chat interaction...
[23:24:46] <ZakuuI> a 10 year old that found a website to view bot and become like *ahem* PEWDIEPIE? But you're so scared of showing your fucked up face?
[23:24:49] <~%Daopa> I offer guides and do gaming content
[23:24:50] <Femennenly> No one ever chats here
[23:24:57] <~%Daopa> and this is suppilemental to that
[23:24:57] <generaldort> ever
[23:24:58] <Femennenly> We’re only here cause it’s confusing to us

Sure you are ....

[23:25:00] <~%Daopa> and that to this
[23:25:01] <Femennenly> Daopa
[23:25:04] <bfk_fer1yfe> stop zakul
[23:25:07] <bfk_fer1yfe> let him talk
[23:25:07] <Femennenly> I looked at your media
[23:25:08] <ZakuuI> lul
[23:25:11] <Femennenly> Content pages etc
[23:25:15] <Phelin3> no its an illegal stream embedded on some BS site no one ever visits to cover up your viewbots
[23:25:15] <Femennenly> No one watches it

This person has a wizards ball of some sorts or telepathy. And knows where all the content pages are and who watches what...

[23:25:35] <~%Daopa> You have no idea of what website, webpage
[23:25:42] <ZakuuI> link pl0x
[23:25:45] <~%Daopa> what traffic levels are
[23:25:48] <generaldort> no idea?
[23:25:49] <~%Daopa> or anything
[23:25:52] <~%Daopa> you dont know
[23:25:58] <~%Daopa> all you can so is speculate
[23:26:06] <Femennenly> I just want to know what you’re gaining from this :) you’re not building community, you’re not getting subs, yours not making money(besides farmed ad revenue)
[23:26:08] <~%Daopa> I have been up front with u guys
[23:26:18] <Femennenly> You haven’t answered my question
[23:26:20] <Femennenly> :/
[23:26:27] <Femennenly> What are you getting from this
[23:26:33] <Femennenly> Nothing that twitch is know for
[23:26:37] <Femennenly> So why not do YT etc
[23:26:38] <~%Daopa> why can I have a stream and chat with people?
[23:26:47] <Femennenly> That’s what I’m confused about
[23:26:56] <Femennenly> I’ve lurked enough to know no one talks here
[23:27:08] <~%Daopa> My friends come here
[23:27:12] <Femennenly> It’s literally you playing T2 or 10 DDs
[23:27:16] <~%Daopa> Other viewers come here
[23:27:24] <Femennenly> Lesigh
[23:27:27] <generaldort> i watched u for onver an hour, nobody said a word
[23:27:27] <~%Daopa> its not crazy but it is what it is
[23:27:28] <Femennenly> You don’t understand
[23:27:39] <Femennenly> 300 viewers no one chats
[23:27:42] <ZakuuI> you have 30k friends that view your stream a day?
[23:27:43] <~%Daopa> Sometimes its like that
[23:27:50] <Femennenly> That’s ad farming if I haven’t seen it before
[23:28:01] <Femennenly> You have nothing to be proud of here
[23:28:06] <Femennenly> The good streamers

Very clear this person doesn't like the content of the stream and my stream style.

[23:28:10] <Femennenly> You are no close to them
[23:28:16] <Femennenly> Despite your inflated numbeers
[23:28:23] <~%Daopa> Byy all means
[23:28:28] <~%Daopa> support the streamers you like
[23:28:33] <~%Daopa> and ignore the ones u dont like
[23:28:33] <Femennenly> You can deny it all you want
[23:28:37] <generaldort> Daopa i think maybe you shouldnt stream this game anymore. Now that we are here the whole community will know

Here you see the crux of the issue, these people feel threatened in some way that I'm taking something from them (and or others) due to having more viewers. If your a streamer and your channel's fate rests upon placement in the Twitch directory, thats pretty grim.

[23:28:56] <~%Daopa> Doing threats as a partner against another partner is a big no no
[23:28:57] <Femennenly> But you’re the one who will lay there at night and be like I’ve wasted my time building a false community

Now I feel bad for this person, this statement here is a possible sign of anxiety / depression.

[23:29:05] <Femennenly> I haven’t threatened anything
[23:29:12] <generaldort> neither have i
[23:29:27] <Femennenly> All I have told you is it’s against ToS

Embedding a Twitch stream to a website is not against ToS. Viewbotting / Fake viewers is against ToS.

[23:29:29] <Femennenly> Which it is
[23:29:34] <generaldort> ur going to be reported to twitch by alot of people. call it a threat all you want but its a fact at this point.
[23:29:45] <~%Daopa> Do whatever you like
[23:29:45] <Femennenly> And we are within our rights to report you for doing so
[23:29:56] <bfk_fer1yfe> YOu will be reported by over 50 people EVERYDAY you stream this game
[23:29:56] <~%Daopa> Next time when you report, just press the report button

General Tip, if you are going to report a channel for some sort of violation that you believe is occurring, just report it - offer as much detail as you can that supports your case. Do not go into the chats channel and harass / make implied threats.

[23:30:00] <Femennenly> Will do :)
[23:30:05] <~%Daopa> and dont come in with your people and harass the guy
[23:30:09] <generaldort> good luck Daopa
[23:30:18] <ZakuuI> hope you get bannedferlyfe
[23:30:25] <~%Daopa> Have a nice day, support the streamers you enjoy
[23:30:25] <generaldort> dont viewbot and you wont have a preoblem
[23:30:35] <~%Daopa> you guys seem well
[23:30:46] <~%Daopa> I dont viewbot
[23:30:56] <~%Daopa> Im done for the night anyways :)
[23:31:01] <ROY4LPAIN> gud
[23:31:02] <generaldort> bye felicia
[23:31:03] <~%Daopa> Take it ez people
[23:31:10] <generaldort> ur only viewers are out
[23:31:22] <ZakuuI> please don't stop breathing in your sleep
[23:31:26] <ZakuuI> that'd be a real shame

Created a highlight that captures the chat for documentation purposes.


In ending let me say, if you are a Twitch Partner, Twitch Affiliate never do what these people have done in my channel. Do not brigade your circle of friends into another persons channel in attempts to intimiate / harass them.

2000 Network error

What Is the 2000: Network Error on Twitch and How to Fix It

The 2000: Network error is one of the most common issues on Twitch. It shows a black screen in the video player with the message “There was a network error. Please try again. (Error #2000)”. This means the Twitch player cannot load the video stream.

Why the 2000 Error Happens: Twitch’s CDN Infrastructure

Twitch delivers live video through a massive global Content Delivery Network (CDN) powered by Amazon infrastructure. When you watch a stream, your device connects to the nearest CDN edge server to receive the video in small chunks (HLS format).

The 2000 error usually occurs when your device cannot reach or maintain a stable connection to that CDN edge server. Common triggers include:

• Local network routing problems
• DNS resolution failing to point to the best CDN server
• Browser cache or extensions interfering with the stream manifest
• Temporary congestion on the path between you and Twitch’s CDN

Most of the time the problem is on your end, not Twitch’s servers.

Quick Fixes to Try First

• Hard refresh the page (Ctrl + Shift + R or Cmd + Shift + R)
• Open Twitch in Incognito/Private mode
• Restart your router (unplug it for 60 seconds)
• Disable browser extensions (especially ad blockers and VPNs)

Step-by-Step Solutions That Fix Error 2000 Most Often

1. Clear Browser Cache and Cookies

Old cached files are the #1 cause of the 2000 error.

• In Chrome/Edge: Go to chrome://settings/clearBrowserData
• Select “All time” and check Cached images and files + Cookies and other site data
• Click Clear data

2. Force Refresh the Page

• Hold Ctrl + Shift + R (or Cmd + Shift + R on Mac)

3. Change Your DNS Settings

On Windows:

1. Press the Windows key and type ncpa.cpl
2. Right-click your active network connection → Properties
3. Select Internet Protocol Version 4 (TCP/IPv4) → Properties
4. Choose “Use the following DNS server addresses”
5. Preferred DNS: 8.8.8.8
6. Alternate DNS: 8.8.4.4
7. Click OK on all windows

4. Flush Your DNS Cache

1. Press the Windows key, type cmd, right-click Command Prompt and choose Run as administrator
2. Type the following command and press Enter:
   ipconfig /flushdns
3. Restart your browser and try Twitch again

Fixes for Mobile Users (App and Browser)

The 2000 error also appears frequently on phones and tablets. Try these mobile-specific steps:

• Twitch Mobile App: Go to your phone settings → Apps → Twitch → Storage → Clear Cache (then Clear Data if needed)
• Force close the Twitch app and reopen it
• Switch between Wi-Fi and mobile data (or vice versa)
• Update the Twitch app to the latest version
• Disable any VPN app temporarily
• If using the browser on mobile, clear the browser cache the same way you would on desktop

Advanced Troubleshooting Using Browser Developer Tools

If the error still appears on desktop, press F12 to open Developer Tools and go to the Network tab. Look for red failed requests — this can show exactly which CDN server is having trouble.

On Firefox it looks like this:

On Chrome it looks like this:

Additional Quick Fixes

• Try a different browser (Chrome or Edge usually work best)
• Disable hardware acceleration in your browser settings
• Turn off any VPN or proxy temporarily
• Check Twitch’s server status at status.twitch.tv

Final Thoughts

The 2000: Network error is almost always caused by a temporary connection issue between your device and Twitch’s global CDN. Clearing cache, changing DNS, flushing DNS, and the mobile-specific steps above fix it for the vast majority of users.

If you have tried everything and the error still appears, it may be a brief issue on Twitch’s side. Wait a few minutes and try again.

Still stuck? Drop a comment below with your device (PC, phone, tablet), whether you are using the app or browser, and what you have already tried. I will help you further.

How much do twitch streamers make

Is Full-Time Streaming Really Better Than a Minimum Wage Job?

Picture this: you ditch the alarm clock, trade the fluorescent-lit cubicle for your gaming setup, and get paid to play the games you love while chatting with a loyal community. Sounds like the ultimate dream, right? Thousands of aspiring streamers chase that vision every year. But before you quit your day job, let’s talk real numbers in 2026. The streaming landscape has evolved, and the math still tells a sobering story most creators overlook.

Minimum Wage in 2026: What You’re Actually Taking Home

The federal minimum wage hasn’t budged from $7.25 an hour. For a standard 40-hour work week, that works out to a gross yearly income of $15,080. After taxes and deductions, the take-home pay drops noticeably. Here’s the updated breakdown based on typical federal withholding for a single filer (your actual numbers will vary by state, filing status, and deductions).

	Yearly	Monthly	Bi-Weekly	Weekly
Gross Income	$15,080.00	$1,256.67	$580.00	$290.00
Taxable Income (after standard deduction)	$4,680.00	$390.00	$180.00	$90.00
Federal Income Tax	$468.00	$39.00	$18.00	$9.00
Social Security & Medicare	$1,153.62	$96.14	$44.37	$22.19
Net Take-Home Pay	$13,458.38	$1,121.53	$517.63	$258.82

Important 2026 update: Many states have raised their minimum wages well above the federal floor. In Connecticut, for example, the current rate sits at $16.94 per hour, pushing your gross annual pay closer to $35,235 for the same hours. That means the bar for streaming to replace your job is even higher depending on where you live. Always check your state’s current rate before comparing.

Streaming Income: The 2026 Bare-Bones Basics

Twitch remains the go-to platform for most live streamers, so let’s focus on its three core revenue streams: ads, subscriptions, and Bits. These figures reflect current 2026 realities after Twitch’s cuts. Earnings vary wildly by audience location, time of year, and ad inventory, but here’s what the data shows for a typical streamer.

1. Advertisements

Twitch pays on a CPM (cost per 1,000 ad impressions) model. Current realistic earnings for most streamers land between $2 and $5 per 1,000 impressions after Twitch’s share, with an average hovering around $2.50–$3.50 depending on your viewers’ location and ad blockers.

• To match the federal minimum wage net monthly income of roughly $1,122, you’d need about 448,000 ad impressions per month at $2.50 per 1,000.
• That breaks down to roughly 2,800 impressions per hour across an 8-hour streaming day.
• Twitch still runs pre-roll and post-roll ads automatically, plus mid-rolls for Partners. But ad blockers, international viewers with low ad rates, and seasonal inventory shortages can cut your actual earnings by 30–50%.

2. Subscriptions

Tier 1 subs now cost viewers $5.99, and most streamers (Affiliates and base Partners) keep a 50/50 split, netting you about $3.00 per sub per month.

• To hit $1,122 monthly from subs alone, you’d need around 374 active Tier 1 subscribers.
• That’s roughly 12–13 new or renewing subs every single day for a 30-day month.
• Higher tiers pay more, and some Partners unlock better splits through the Partner Plus program, but those perks require consistent high performance.

3. Bits (Cheer Donations)

Viewers buy Bits and cheer them in chat. You earn one cent per Bit after Twitch’s cut.

• To reach $1,122 monthly from Bits alone, you’d need 112,200 Bits cheered each month.
• That’s a lot of engaged viewers willing to support you in real time.

The Real Challenges Most Streamers Ignore

Even if the raw math looks possible, several factors make consistent minimum-wage-level income rare:

• Ad blockers and geo-location issues: Many viewers in the US still block ads, and international audiences often generate far lower rates (sometimes as little as $1 per 1,000 impressions).
• Inventory shortages: Big events or slow advertising months can slash your ad revenue overnight.
• Taxes as a self-employed creator: Expect to pay roughly 15.3% self-employment tax on top of income tax, plus quarterly estimated payments. No employer matching contributions or benefits like health insurance.
• Hidden costs: High-speed internet, powerful PC upgrades, lighting, capture cards, electricity, and streaming software can easily run $2,000–$5,000 upfront and hundreds monthly.
• Time investment: Most full-time streamers put in 40–60+ hours a week between streaming, editing clips, social media, and community management. Burnout is real.

The Odds of Going Full-Time: What the Data Actually Shows

Here’s the unfiltered truth in 2026: the vast majority of Twitch streamers earn very little. Recent payout data reveals that even streamers in the top 10,000 only clear about $900 minimum per month from Twitch alone. The top 1,000 do better (around $7,000+), but that’s still a tiny fraction of creators. Full-time income usually comes from diversification—sponsorships, merch, YouTube VODs, TikTok clips, and direct donations—not just ads, subs, and Bits.

Practical Takeaways Before You Make the Leap

Before you go full-time, run your own broadcaster stats against these updated benchmarks. Ask yourself:

• Do I already have a steady audience that converts into consistent revenue?
• Can I survive 3–6 months of variable income while building?
• Have I explored multiple platforms and income streams?
• Am I treating this like a business with proper tracking, taxes, and savings?

Streaming can absolutely become a full-time career for the dedicated few who treat it seriously. But for most, it starts as a rewarding side hustle that grows over time. The smartest move? Keep the day job (or at least a safety net) while you test the waters and scale smartly.

Bottom line: the numbers don’t lie, but your passion and strategy can change the game. Crunch your stats, stay realistic, and build sustainably. Your future full-time streaming career will thank you.

Android app blank screen during login fix

How to fix the blank screen when tapping login on the Twitch android app!

So I recently ran into this issue with the Twitch mobile app on a samsung galaxy s4 phone.

Since I haven't used this phone for anything in a long time, some android related updates were missing.

In order to fix this blank login screen I had to go to the app store and update "Android System WebView"

Direct URL Link:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.google.android.webview&hl=en

Upon installing the update and trying the Twitch android app again, the login screen worked and I was able to get into my twitch account.

Other options you may consider if still having problems.

• Uninstall and reinstall the latest twitch android app
• Make sure to delete all cache from the app in settings

When Blizzard promotes your stream!

Ever wonder what happens when a really large gaming company like Blizzard promotes a Twitch live streamer?

So while I was checking out the PC Open Beta for Destiny 2, I noticed in the launcher screen a advertisement for a Twitch tv streamer.



And I started to ponder what type of traffic does this sort of advertising provide. Lucky for us they used a public short url linker which provides public stats.

Here is the URL short link stats from the day of advertising a Twitch tv streamer received.


Over 29,856 people clicked to the Twitch stream from Blizzard's Launcher.

Looking at a couple of 3rd party stat sites that track twitch channel metrics, it shows around 1,000 concurrent viewers, 900+ new followers and around 31,000 channel views for the broadcaster during the time frame.

That's pretty awesome!

Competition mentality

Streamer Vs Streamer - Do you believe you are competing against other streamers for viewers?

Here is a recent reddit post against my channel fueling this sort of a competition mentality.


This reddit user doesn't like that I embed my stream on the sidebar of websites that I run. They say because of having the stream embed its creating a unfair boost and is hurting other streamers.

Here is a great example of why you shouldn't think streaming is any sort of competition from one of the biggest entertainers of all time in Las Vegas, Wayne Newton.

Video Interview from Fox News; Your World with Neil Cavuto.
URL: https://youtu.be/obumip0Q8Wg?t=27m17s
Go to timestamp 27:15

Quote from the interview:
Wayne Newton, "There is not the competition between the performers that people would assume, it would be a logical aftermath of that, the truth of the matter is, the more the big stars come here, like those that you have mentioned, the better it is for all of us, because people will see the show they came to see, if it be one of them or me or whomever and then they say who do we go see next. So the whole town and the whole entertainment industry really derive a great benefit from that talent being here."


Don't fall into the mind trap of thinking you are in a competition against other streamers for viewers.  Focus on creating a brand, high quality content and promoting it out across many platforms and social media avenues. Use the twitch platform as a tool to grow your community and to showcase your content.  Also rather then seeing other streamers as competition, try to collaborate with others and find synergies if possible.

General video and clip info for Twitch.tv

Listed here are some general info for videos and clips on the Twitch.tv platform.

A while ago twitch introduced a way to upload videos to the platform. What they didn't really make clear is how much of a priority uploaded videos get over highlights and past broadcasts.

If you are searching for videos on the platform, uploaded videos are shown first over other types even if other highlights have more total views.

Here is a example using the top search bar on Twitch and the video game Star Citizen.

Click image to enlarge

All the top listed videos are uploads, even thou the default filter for "popular" is listed its not working as intended. Another thing to note about upload videos is monetization, how that works is a mystery.  I speculate it only will do a pre-roll ad but nothing else so be aware if your creating hour long videos.

Uploaded videos also get the top spot in some game directories. Looks like any uploaded video from the past week or two are displayed.

Here is a screenshot from the videos section on battlefield 4 showing the trending uploads.

A quick tip that many streamers probably don't realize is happening on Twitch in regards to videos. At the end of your videos, it will automatically transition to the last "past broadcast" your channel has available.

Go investigate many of the top broadcasters on Twitch and see how most of their long session "past broadcasts" have thousands of views. The more you can syndicate short videos on twitch and around the internet that get consumed will help overall in boosting numbers for that video and past broadcasts. This is what generally is occurring for many top tier streamers.

Clips
Check clips that viewers generated during your stream session and combine them into a montage for uploading. Delete the clips afterwords so all views go to the uploads and not the clips. Clips from what I have seen are not monetized and create in a way leaks leading viewers elsewhere.

This is a major difference from creating highlights or uploads which when finished autoplay your last broadcast. 

Another option that clips can be very handy for is for use on twitter. Since downloading clips is very easy, this offers you a quick way to get some video content onto your twitter.

VodCast

Everytime someone is watching a VodCast on your channel, the video that is currently playing will get a view and also your channel's total viewcount.

Realtime viewer numbers during VodCast is exactly the same as if your live, if people are watching the VodCast, the viewer count will show how many are currently doing that on the channel

One thing to note, transition from VodCast to Live or Live to VodCast resets the realtime view count even if you time it to switch between each session really fast.

Personally I found extreme success with VodCasting and having the channel going for almost 24/7.  I previously was on the playlist beta, which was similar to vodcast expect that you were not listed on the game directory and view counts didn't count for the videos.

With the latest mobile app changes using VodCasting during times where your not able to stream can potentially gain you a major amount of followers.

Here is a peek at my channel stats from when the mobile app changes happen.

The app changes started around 6/30 - note the yellow marker on the image. Follower count has skyrocketed from what I usually have been receiving on the platform. Majority of this is happening during vodcasting sessions.

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Ok well thats all that I can think of at the moment for this topic! I hope someone out there gets something useful from this post. If you have any questions or comments fill free to write them below.